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Sunday, July 30, 2006

I *HEART* Brindles!

A local Anatolian owner is moving to Idaho and had recently taken her pup there to check out the lay of the land. Sure sounds exciting!!

Matty on the move
Looks beautiful to me!

Of course, when I think of remote and rustic environments, I think of bugs, snakes and bears too. eep.

Here's part of one shot I made of Matty when she came to visit early in February.
Matty puppy headshot
Very cute!

A sweet temperament as well.
I love her brindle color though you can't see much of it here!

Here is a cropped shot of one side of her body.
Spots and stripes!

Just to show how nuts I am, I'm thinking I should have made a macro shot of some of her individual brindle colored hairs! I'm so fascinated by the brindle pattern and generally intrigued by the bands in the hair of genetic sables anyway. :P


Above you can see fleck of color on her body, and freckles on her nose. This is called ticking. This is a form of pigment leak-through that happens on pinto factored dogs that have the ticking trait. Puppies like dalmatians are born white, and then the ticking begins to break through. White areas shrink back a bit as pigment development comes to the fore.

The color of ticking that comes through will be the same color as that area on the dog might have been, if the dog didn't also have spotting trait (pinto/piebald). Pinto marks are white toes and white stockings, blazes, stars on the forehead, even big patches of fur like on a Saint Bernard or Collie, where the color white covers up the body color beneath. These white markings are areas where pigment development is turned OFF.


In a brindle dog, you can only see the black stripes in areas where the dog might normally be yellow to red. You can have a black dog that is brindle too, but the stripes will be hidden in the coat because of black on black! doh!

Now tanpoint!

Tanpoint doesn't seem to happen in Anatolians. But brindling does fascinating things to a tanpoint, so I'm bringing it up here while I'm on the subject of brindles.

Tanpoint is a black and tan pattern as seen on a Dobie, Rotti, Berners and some Australian shepherds -- just to name a few breeds. And there are some black and tan dogs that have brindling. I've seen a picture of a purebred Saluki that has tanpoint and brindling. Probably happens in Afghans too, but being long coated it's hard to see actual stripes on them. Anyone know other tanpoint and brindle breeds?

While a brindled, tanpoint dog's whole body is striped... you can only see the black stripes on the tan point areas of the dog - it needs that yellow/red area to show up. These are usually mixed breeds usually since people who develop tanpoint breeds usually want clear and sharp markings that are not muddy looking.

Some time ago, someone sent some pics for a breed ID on a rescue.
I thought this dog was gorgeous.
I'm not sure what he is (definitely not an Anatolian) of course, but appears to be a mixture of rotti and some brindled dog which also contributed the genetics for (guessing here) a good amount of bone, tight feet and a different earset than rottis usually have.
Handsome dog
A mixed breed dog in brindled tanpoint

What a great dog!
Another shot of this awesome dog

The eye spots (the tanpoints over the eyes) on this handsome dog are brindled, as is the muzzle and any other areas where the coat is based on phaeomelanin (yellow to red hair - non-black areas). The white medallion on the chest has no pigment (pinto factor) so there will not be yellow hairs for the brindling to break through.

Fascinating huh? B)

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Semavi Lady woofed at @ 7/30/2006 12:00:00 AM | Permanent link | (4) Comments

Blogger Carina sent us a woof // July 30, 2006

Oh, I heart brindles too!
A previous dog (Phoebe the Terminator, aka Phoebelicious, passed on at about 14-15 yo, she was a stray I had for 13 years so I knew nothing of her origins) was a part-brindle. She was probably GSD x - brindle sighthound? Malinois? She had the black saddle of a GSD, body & size of a Mal, greyhoundy ears, and the parts that weren't black were green brindle. People kept asking what she was and I started telling people she was a Lurcher - which technically, she may well have been.   

Blogger Ron Southern sent us a woof // July 30, 2006

Dogs, dogs, dogs. Doncha think about anything else? Doesn't brindling occur in horses? Just asking, I'm not sure.   

Blogger Semavi Lady sent us a woof // July 30, 2006

Carina, what an interesting dog with an interesting set of aliases (LOL) for Phoebe. I'm glad you found each other and she had a good life. Were you feeding her raw? She did okay on processed junk food then? No ear infections and all that stuff?

I've had a couple brindles in the past. One was a GSD/Dane mix (she was a known mix from an oops breeding so the breeder knew what the parents were). Another was an ASD colored much like Matty above. I hope to have a brindle again some day, whatever breed it might be when the time is right.


Ron, LOL!! Thanks! What can I say? Topical blogs are just that way. :rotfl: I am actually going to try to find time to do a macro on dog hair! You might need to send the white coats! ;)

Yes, there are brindle horses (link to one of the best sites here) and cattle. The genetics and triggers for expression in equines appears to be quite different than brindling in dogs.

Black striping across species varies but at the core level brindling is essentially the same -- in that the pattern is the effect of some genes interacting and -- essentially producing a pattern reminiscent of a demonically possessed, break dancing fool of an inkjet printer with a black ink cartridge randomly skipping and streaking - skittering about with glee. -- What's not to like about it? :D (it's an acquired taste I know)   

Blogger ZaltanaAnatolians sent us a woof // July 30, 2006

Janice, love the little genetics lesson to wake up to on a Sunday morning. I have never particularly liked brindles, except pinto type brindling, but after reading this, "a demonically possessed breakdancing fool of an inkjet printer" I am looking at brindles in a very new and fascinated way.
I guess my Ayla has the flecking gene, she has little faint spots of black fur all over visible in her white fur, much like a Dalmatian, this was not visible when I first got her, I wonder if those spots will come out more as she gets older?   

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